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”“The dark web””: Don't waste your time.

(This post is WIP)

You're probably posting on some forum or.. whatever else, asking what you should know or how to start. Maybe someone will answer you with “the hidden wiki”, maybe someone will tell you that you need a VPN/VMs (Whonix)/Tails. Well.. Someone posted this blog post.

Yes can find drug markets, but what is there to explore? They look like e-commerce sites, and wikipedia has images of drugs too. There is also the thing that pretty much all of the markets I tried to visit (so I could take a picture to show you that they look like e-commerce sites) required a login, so you can't just browse them too.

Red-rooms/hitmen do not exist, firearms are pretty much a no, and you aren't Indiana Jones, you aren't going to find secret documents, plus wikileaks isn't a onion only website.

Gore and involuntary porn can be found on non-onion websites (I actually searched, but didn't watch any. If you for some bizarre reason want to watch it, do tell me if they are real). ISIS used twitter to recruit women, drug dealers have used craigslist, and whatsapp too. And a child porn group used plain old email. Tor isn't the only place where online criminality is happening

Creepy pastas are fiction. “YouTubers such as TakeDownMan, SomeOrdinaryGamers and the like are ENTERTAINMENT. They sensationalize the DW on YouTube to garner views. Do not take what they say as creed.” Edit: SomeOrdinaryGamers made a video about how ““the deep web”” (I think he uses it incorrectly in place of dark web) isn't actually that scarry, and I agree up until the point where he goes overboard on what you should use to access ““the dark web”“.*

If you have ever seen an iceberg to show the size of ““the webs”“, it is wrong, the amount of onions is tiny (I would guess Tor is the most known, therefore most used network... The other networks are therefore probably not going to be much bigger)


Half of onion websites** are legal¹. Facebook is the largest. There are many more normal websites that have onions too. Tor is also mostly used for non-onion websites.

If you actually want to use onion services(/Tor) for what they are for: security (encryption and authentication), great! Here are some indexes and projects:

You can watch YouTube through Invidious (I help out there a little), browser Twitter through Nitter, Reddit through libreddit and Instagram through Bibliogram.

Tor/onion services/“”“the dark web”“” are made to protect your human rights.

¹ https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/9473/7794 https://web.archive.org/web/20201112023201/https://matt.traudt.xyz/static/papers/hscrawlperf-ieee2018.pdf https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00396338.2016.1142085

**The above papers all only check onion websites, onions are used for other things. My examples are that I use my SSH over onion, and send email to an onion service.

*How can he after (he himself says) 100, 200 videos using (I'd guess) Tor Browser not know that there is an easy way to ensure you don't get viruses and big bad scripts don't run: use safest security. (And don't download (random) stuff, like you shouldn't normally).